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| Todd | Bad luck?It seems like I'm having a spot of bad luck. The $100 Chinese netbook arrived today and when I plugged it in, it turned on for a few seconds and then the CPU fried since the screen started to "melt" and became unresponsive. It doesn't work now and so I'm kind of pissed since I paid $100 + shipping and it took 16 days to arrive!
Plus I couldn't put Linux on it anyway since the memory is built into the CPU board (which looks like an SDRAM card) and so I'd be stuck using Windows CE anyway. I think I'll stick to better-trusted brands and might find a cheap Eee PC since I'm really looking for something cheaper and damn small (i.e. 7" screen).
This is number 2 in a row for my recently bought hardware that fails to work. | 2009-12-30 | 12:19 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I have an EEE 701, 2gb hdd,512ram, sd slot(bootable),7inch screen, Celeron ~800MHz I'd sell to you for like $150 | 2009-12-30 | 1:02 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Damn I thought you sold that already. It sucks because I would've bought it from you had I know you still had it to sell. I bought one like an hour ago for $145 but the only difference is that it had a 8 GB drive and a Celeron M. When I make some more money ($100) I'd like to buy it from you. | 2009-12-30 | 1:14 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Unless you want to trade. I have lots of stuff I need to get rid of so if you need hardware, laptops, or PDAs I can tell you what I have. | 2009-12-30 | 1:19 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I'd be interested in hearing what you have. Idk whether I'll want any of it, but it's worth a try. | 2009-12-30 | 3:33 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Okay, here's a list (from what I can find in my room):
[Computer]
IBM Aptiva (133 MHz)
[Laptops]
Compaq Armada 3500
US-LOGIC NT-1110 (disassembled)
Dell Latitude CPi (233 MHz)
Toshiba Tecra 8000
Fujitsu Lifebook S7010 (broken screen, no HDD, DVD-ROM, or RAM - disassembled)
[PDAs]
Palm i705 PDA
Handspring Visor (blue)
VTech Helio
[Misc. Hardware]
AMD K6 III+ CPU (450 MHz)
CD-ROM (for a Gateway E-Series)
Floppy Drive (for a Gateway E-Series)
Centrino / Pentium M CPU (1.73 MHz - socket 479)
Neoware Eon 5000T (with cables and DiskOnChip)
HP Storage Drive (SCSI) with Storage Tapes
NEC Versa 6230 screen
Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 NIC card
2 x 1 gig sticks of PC2-5300 RAM
2 x 1 gig sticks of PC3-8500 RAM
256 meg stick of PC-133 RAM
2 CPU heatsyncs (1 fan)
2 keyboards
2 mice
3 ethernet cards (Megahertz, Adaptec, Linksys)
4 MB Kingston RAM (PCMCIA)
HDD, floppy, and CD cables
Kensington Laptop Lock
4 CMOS batteries (working)
LPT to Serial connector
Serial to Serial connector
IBM 258 MB laptop HDD (thicker than most laptop HDDs)
If I find anything else, I'll post it. For now that's what I can find. If you're looking for something in particular I'll see if I have it. | 2009-12-30 | 6:16 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I'm assuming the [b]IBM Aptiva (133 MHz)[/b] is socket 7, are there jumpers or the mobo to set CPU clock, and what's the highest they can be set to?
Is [b]2 x 1 gig sticks of PC2-5300 RAM[/b] laptop or desktop RAM?
As far as the [b]Toshiba Tecra 8000[/b] and [b]Compaq Armada 3500[/b] what are the specs as far as drives,ram,cpu, and do you have AC cables?
[b]2 CPU heatsyncs (1 fan)[/b] what socket are they? Or what CPUs will they work with? | 2009-12-30 | 7:23 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?1. As for the IBM, I'm not sure if it is a Socket 7 or not. It's been a while since I opened it up and it's currently under a huge pile of stuff in my shed. I don't know if it had jumpers (unless you mean the DIP switch) but from when I took it apart in May, it has a 2 gig HDD, 16 MB of RAM, and a CD-ROM and floppy drive. I couldn't install Linux on it so I erased Windows and put DOS in it.
2. The PC2-5300 RAM is laptop RAM.
3. Here are the specs for each:
[Toshiba Tecra 8000]
CPU: Pentium II 333 MHz
RAM: 96 MB
HDD: 8 GB
[Compaq Armada 3500]
CPU: Pentium II 233 MHz
RAM: 64 MB
HDD: None
I can dig up the AC adapter for the Compaq but I don't have a spare for the Toshiba.
4. The 2 CPU heatsyncs are for a socket 478/479. | 2009-12-30 | 8:42 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?The only thing that interests me is the K6 III and maybe the IBM/thin client. Have you tested the K6? | 2009-12-30 | 9:22 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?I have a mobo for it I think, but I don't have a case, HDD, and a power supply for it so no. | 2009-12-30 | 10:07 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I've read that the K6-III 450 is a great CPU performance wise and considering the performance of other AMD CPUs I have I bet it would be a good enough CPU for a basic linux system, my current K6 system runs a AMD K6-2 500. | 2009-12-30 | 10:20 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?You can have it and the mobo too if you want. The mobo brand is some strange no-name manufacturer but it has a socket for it and I assume they both would work. I know the guy who gave them to me and he's never given me crap hardware before. | 2009-12-30 | 10:22 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Is the motherboard AT or ATX? (AT uses old school large keyboard connector, ATX uses PS/2 ports) | 2009-12-30 | 10:28 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?It's definitely ATX. There are even USB ports. It's an Epox MVP3G2 Super7 ATX.
Plus I have 6 x 64 MB RAM cards (supports 3 slots), ATI Radeon graphics card (I think 16 MB or somewhere around there), and a heatsync fan with worn wires. | 2009-12-30 | 10:43 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?http://active-hardware.com/english/reviews/mainboard/ep-mvp3g2.htm That's a nice Mainboard for a K6, I only have one ATX board, all my other K6 mobos are AT. The RAM isn't really worth anything but if you don't need it, I would probably be willing to take it, extra is good :P I don't want/need the graphics card though. How much would you say that cpu+mainboard and the thin client the cf reader+card you got is worth? | 2009-12-31 | 9:19 AM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?The motherboard, looking online, might be worth $30 or somewhere around there. The CPU might be $20, the thin client cost $20 and still works fine. The only thing is that the plastic cover on the front had two plastic hinges that broke off but I have it held together with masking tape (which works too). The CF card and adapter might be $12 together since the cheapest 256-meg CF card is $10 and the CF card reader cost $2. The 6 RAM cards would be worth $24 since the cheapest I found was $4 for a 64 MB RAM card. You can have the RAM since I have no other motherboards with slots accepting that RAM type.
So all of it together might be worth $106 or more depending on what you can do with it. | 2009-12-31 | 2:07 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I might just take the thin client+cf+reader for the $32, the EEE would only cost you $150+S&H minus $32+S&H.
If you got that IBM desktop out and figured out what the max CPU speed would be, I would probably be interested. | 2009-12-31 | 2:29 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Okay. I also looked through the RAM and there were actually 5 x 64-meg PC100 RAM cards and a 256-meg one.
After looking up prices on various retailers and sites, here are the prices I found for all the stuff (mobo, RAM, graphics card, CPU, thin client, etc.):
ATI 3D Rage Pro Turbo AGP - $18
Epox MVP3G2 - $48
AMD K6-III+ - $38
5 x 64 MB RAM cards - $40
1 x 256 MB RAM card - $20
Neoware Eon 5000T - $10
CF Card adapter - $2
256 MB CF card - $10
Total: $186
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I'll see if I can dig up that IBM. | 2009-12-31 | 2:42 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Well I made an interesting discovery. The IBM is an IBM Aptiva 2176, and it is a Socket 7 (P1 CPU).
I don't see any jumpers on it since (1) the power supply cables and HDD cables are in the way and (2) a separate PCI expansion board covers almost half the mobo. | 2009-12-31 | 3:11 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Well I'd be willing to give you $25 for all the thin client stuff. None of the other stuff is worth that much to me. | 2009-12-31 | 3:19 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?What about the two mobos? I can send the IBM and the Epox to you but I can't send the case for the IBM since it weighs a ton. | 2009-12-31 | 3:22 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Well a P2/3 gen mobo+cpu for $86 seems crazy, and honestly the IBM stuff wouldn't be worth the shipping cost.
The thin client on the other hand would be something to mess with. | 2009-12-31 | 3:26 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Well I could probably fit the two mobos in a flat-rate box and ship it for less than $10. I was going to say, what if you paid for shipping on the Eee and I'll pay for the shipping of what you want. You'd get the better end in terms of shipping costs. | 2009-12-31 | 3:28 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Well I'll list off how much I'm willing to offer for items:
Epox MVP3G2 + AMD K6-III+ - $20
5 x 64 MB RAM cards + 1 x 256 MB RAM card - $5
Neoware Eon 5000T + CF Card adapter + 256 MB CF card - $25
IBM mobo+cpu - $5
IBM mobo+cpu+case+ram - $20 (I realize it would jack the shipping, but I would like the complete unit, if you had more complete specs I would be more interested)
I also realize that my offers might not be going rates on ebay, so if you'd rather sell on ebay for the going rate, feel free :P | 2009-12-31 | 3:39 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Okay, here are the eBay rates:
256 MB PC100 RAM - $4.99 (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-256MB-PC100-SDRAM-168pin-ECC-Reg-MEMORY-EXPERTS_W0QQitemZ170415107128QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27ad882c38)
5 x 64 MB PC100 RAM - $1.49 x 5 = $7.45 (http://cgi.ebay.com/PC100-64MB-SDRAM-168pin-Non-Ecc-Desktop-Memory_W0QQitemZ320422516973QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9aab98ed)
Epox MVP3G2 - $27.99 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Epox-EP-MVP3G2-Socket-7-Motherboard_W0QQitemZ370298035105QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotherboards?hash=item56377b9ba1)
IBM Aptiva 2176 (mobo) - $10 [link is for 2158 not 2176] (http://cgi.ebay.com/01N3005-IBM-APTIVA-SYSTEM-BROAD-2158_W0QQitemZ260528560621QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotherboards?hash=item3ca8b659ed)
Neoware Eon 5000T - $20 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Thin-client-Neoware-Eon-300mhz-32mb-ram-8mb-DOC-WinCE_W0QQitemZ190340081618QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Workstations?hash=item2c512727d2)
AMD K6-3+ - $14.95 (http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-K6-3-450AHX-2-4V-K6-III-256K-L2-Cache-Fully-Working_W0QQitemZ170402008529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item27acc04dd1)
Pentium I CPU - $5.99 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pentium-1-P1-120MHz-Socket-7-CPU-processor-SY033_W0QQitemZ220495492688QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCPUs?hash=item33568e3650)
256 MB CF card - $8.45 (http://cgi.ebay.com/256MB-CF-CompactFlash-Memory-Card-Compact-Flash-DiGi-CF_W0QQitemZ170425886723QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigital_Camera_Memory_Cards?hash=item27ae2ca803)
CF card adapter - $1.17 (http://cgi.ebay.com/40-Pin-IDE-To-CF-Compact-Flash-Card-Adapter-Bootable-k_W0QQitemZ390126087882QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5ad553aeca)
I can see about what rates they charge for shipping the entire computer but it weighs like 30 lbs without the case. | 2009-12-31 | 3:59 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?That IBM is ugly, all I want in the thin client and cf and reader, I'll give you $30. That's my final offer. | 2009-12-31 | 4:02 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Do you want me to take a picture of the real IBM? | 2009-12-31 | 4:07 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?It's a tower right? I looked up the model number, and it's ugly. | 2009-12-31 | 4:10 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Yep. It's a b*tch to disassemble too. Before I put it back together, is there anything you'd want from it? It has a 2-gig WD HDD, 16 MB of RAM, what appears to be a multimedia / modem PCI board. Because I'm probably going to scrap it and throw it away. | 2009-12-31 | 4:15 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Is it ATX? Is the RAM SDRAM? Does it have AGP? | 2009-12-31 | 4:47 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?The mobo is an ATX and all the RAM is SDRAM, all 7 (if you include the 16 MB RAM in the IBM). The Epox has AGP but the IBM doesn't have a gfx card. It looks like it supports AGP though. | 2009-12-31 | 5:27 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I meant the IBM mobo, does it have an AGP slot, is it ATX and is the RAM type SDRAM (not EDO), if it is all of those things I'd be interested. I've given up on the K6 CPU and mobo because what I'd want to pay for it is much less that what you've found on EBay. | 2009-12-31 | 5:58 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?The IBM is an ATX and does have an AGP slot. The RAM in the IBM isn't SDRAM but the mobo has one slot for SDRAM.
But I didn't mean you pay me money but rather we trade stuff without exchanging currency.
The reason I'm asking what you'd be interested in is because I kinda need to get rid of some of this hardware lying around and I'm running out of room. | 2009-12-31 | 6:16 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Well the thing is that the stuff wouldn't be equal to the value of the EEE, so some currency would have to be exchanged. | 2009-12-31 | 6:18 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Yes but what I meant is that you don't pay me but I'll give you the $50 in my PayPal + any or all of the stuff you want. | 2009-12-31 | 6:22 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Just curious, is the CPU overclocking jumper near the CPU? There are jumpers for hardware interrupts, FDD writing, VGA capabilities, etc. I can't find any labeled for CPU speed though. | 2009-12-31 | 8:42 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?It is usually labeled on the mainboard or a sticker on the inside of the case. I don't really think that you have stuff that would be worth $100 to me. I might be able to think of something though. What are the specs on the Dell Latitude CPi, and optical drives do the laptops have?
BTW:You should get your GUI awards ballot in. | 2009-12-31 | 10:26 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?I can't seem to find it.
The Dell Latitude CPi is a 233 MHz P2 processor, 4.5 GB HDD with Win98, 64 MB of RAM, FDD, BUT a bad battery. The Toshiba Tecra 8000 has an interchangeable CDROM and FDD. The Dell does not (only an FDD).
I also found a few other things that may be of some use / interest to you: a 3Com ethernet card (PCI board), and an 18.2-gig SCSI HDD which runs at 10,000 RPM. Again I'm just trying to get rid of it and if you'd like it you can have it. | 2010-01-01 | 10:06 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Well I mean I'd take a lot of it, but I can't give the EEE in exchange without some cash, the EEE is worth more to me. | 2010-01-01 | 10:10 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?I know and I'm not saying all the stuff I plan to trade is worth that but I'm only trying to match the $100 with the $50 from my PayPal included.
Do you know of any floppy-based Linux distros for something like a P2/333 MHz/64 MB RAM/4 GB HDD? Because I might be able to find a hard drive and the AC adapter for the Compaq Armada which does have a working battery. | 2010-01-01 | 10:14 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Kolibri would work on the Armada, It's not Linux but it's floppy based.
What are the connectors on your SCSI drives? any of them 50pin and look like an IDE cable but wider?
I suppose that a combination of stuff could come out to $100. | 2010-01-01 | 10:26 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?The SCSI drive is 68-pin Wide Ultra 2. I do have the cable for it however it does not have a supporting motherboard connector, just another 68-pin connector. I also have the SCSI board for it too.
I'll load Kolibri onto the Armada and let you know when I get it installed. | 2010-01-01 | 10:33 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I'd think that the 3 P2 laptops, the K6+Mobo, the IBM Mobo+CPU,the SDRAM,the 3com network card, the scsi cards, and the thin client and cf+adapter would be worth $100 to me. | 2010-01-01 | 10:57 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Okay. I'll see if I can get Kolibri on that Compaq since both my AC adapters for it seem to have worn out. I'll give you the better one but you might have to buy a new one for it later on. The connection seems to be worn out in the wire so when I bend it or move it around it sometimes begins to charge. :P | 2010-01-01 | 11:18 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Sounds like loads of fun. I'd probably just set them all up with Fun500 6 and try and give them a purpose (and therein make Fun500 have a few purposes). | 2010-01-01 | 11:30 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Well the Toshiba could be more valuable since if you get an AC adapter for it, you can load Linux on it (Ubuntu works nicely), expand the RAM using the one in the Compaq, and use it as a complete notebook. | 2010-01-01 | 11:33 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?True, I thinking about that, but I have a laptop with a P3 700 and 256MB RAM and it struggles with Ubuntu. I'd think they'd be overly well suited for running a GUI though. | 2010-01-02 | 10:36 AM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?It takes a little while to load but once it gets going it does pretty well. | 2010-01-02 | 10:39 AM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?Idk, I'm sure I could find a use for them. So is this how the deal would be?
I ship you the EEE
In exchange you pay me $50 and ship me the 3 P2 laptops, the K6+Mobo, the IBM Mobo+CPU,the SDRAM,the 3com network card, the scsi cards, and the thin client and cf+adapter | 2010-01-02 | 10:56 AM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?I can ship you everything but I've run out of room for the Dell Latitude CPi. Did you still want it because I can ship you stuff like the RAM or HDD for it? It'll probably be 3 boxes without the Dell, 4 with the Dell. | 2010-01-02 | 11:04 AM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I'd rather have the Dell than the IBM mobo/network/scsi cards. | 2010-01-02 | 11:07 AM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Well I can ship them all if you want. I need to make some space anyway. | 2010-01-02 | 11:09 AM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?That would be best, this is my priority list in case you need space:
1.Thin client + CF stuff
2.The laptops
3.K6+Mobo
4.RAM Cards
5.IBM mobo
6.PCI cards | 2010-01-02 | 11:13 AM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I think I'd be interested in the vtech helio if you have the cables for it. Looking it up it looks like I might be able to mod it a bit. | 2010-01-02 | 11:26 AM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?lol I bought it for the same reason. Apparently there are tutorials for loading Linux onto it but I don't have any cables for it. If you still want it, I can send it to you too. | 2010-01-02 | 11:47 AM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Because Kolibri is much more difficult to install to the HDD with a floppy, would you mind having Windows 98 on the hard drive? | 2010-01-02 | 11:57 AM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I don't care what OS is on it, I'll end up wiping it out anyways :P. If you don't mind, I'd like a CD or DVD with all the copies of M-OS and maybe some source included? | 2010-01-02 | 12:07 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Okay, maybe some source. lol I'll burn a copy of the entire project folder. | 2010-01-02 | 12:15 PM |
| Brandon | Re:Bad luck?I'd send you the same with Fun500 but it'd be a waste, all the versions are available on my site and I'm not so good at keeping my old source :P | 2010-01-02 | 12:18 PM |
| Todd | Re:Bad luck?Well I fit it all into 2 flat-rate boxes and 1 priority mail box. I'll ship it sometime today or tomorrow when I can print out the shipping labels. So can you PM me your address? I'll PM you mine. | 2010-01-02 | 2:26 PM |
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